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So far the media have observed a total silence on the jailing of Vincent Reynouard , president of
there are at least of the crimes for which there are prison places, these are crimes of opinion since just throw Mr. Vincent Reynouard in prison in France for crimes of opinion, the only crime of opinion to my knowledge - well, this is not the only one but in any case is the one who is penalized more seriously - which is the act of revisionism or Holocaust denial is said, that is to say that Vincent Reynouard is an activist - not a historian, is a militant revisionist - and because of his opinions he was put in prison, he has not been sentenced to a fine he was sentenced to prison "
We'll talk about the case of Vincent Reynouard who is in prison in a French prison after being extradited from Belgium. The only crime he has committed or is the only crime he has committed is to have an opinion
prohibited on the subject of gas chambers in concentration camps.
prohibited on the subject of gas chambers in concentration camps.
- Jean-Yves Le Gallou
: He released a 16-page booklet , I think, revisionist, which has resulted in his being sentenced to one year in prison by the Court of Appeal of Colmar - at first instance, at first, then by the Court of Appeal of Colmar then. So tell me: a year in prison, in general, when is sentenced to one year in prison, it does not precisely because we lack space
in prisons and there, in this case, we found a place; in this case, the father of 8 children had much luck since he found a place in a prison! It was in Belgium and the French government obtained his extradition and is now in custody in Valenciennes. is still an event which the press has absolutely no talking. But the réinformation, it is also talk of actual events, which the press and the mainstream media does not speak: and this is an important event since c is the first time in France, for a very, very long someone is in jail only - not an act, not for violence, not for a flight - only to issue an opinion . So we will say, yes, "Ah yes, but it is a hateful opinion, which is obviously not an argument. The question of whether the opinion is hateful or not is not an argument about whether we should put someone in jail ever since no regime has jailed people whose ideas he found sympathetic: neither Mao or Stalin or Kim Il-Sung, nobody in prison people whose ideas they find sympathetic. So saying "he has ideas odious" this is obviously not an acceptable argument, as saying: "Yes but this is contrary to the truth" is not admissible since in the fields of history, in science or in policy areas are considered in European societies - a very long time because it does not go back only to the Declaration of Human Rights, or the Renaissance , it goes back to the papal reform of the eleventh century and even beyond to the Greeks: is true in these domains which is freely rebuttable, that is to say, we can say: a proposition is true if others can try to demonstrate that it is false. Well, despite this, Reynouard Vincent is in jail in France for crimes of opinion and that, I think it's an event that deserves emphasis . This earned France - it's still a little sad - statements by the Iranian authorities and the Venezuelan authorities to condemn this attack on freedom, which is obviously a bit ironic, but after all, the truth is that indeed there are things we can not say in Paris and Tehran, but there are also things that can be said in Tehran but that can not be said in Paris.
- Henry Lesquen : Tell Tehran that Muhammad is not ... - Jean-Yves Le Gallou
: Exactly. Paris is allowed but is not enabled Tehran, cons by other things that are not permitted in Paris are permitted in Tehran. In any case it really raises the issue of freedom of expression and the fact that e put in jail for the first time really for a very, very long time for someone ONLY written, well, it ' is actually worrisome because we should not delude ourselves: today we start with a case of revisionist crime of opinion, but I note that the same law provides for jail - even if you do not yet - For crimes of opinion "racist" and we all know that lots of people have been convicted and not only them, incidentally, to "extreme right", but in all environments ... -
Henry Lesquen : Brice Hortefeux ... - Jean-Yves Le Gallou : I dared not say so! ... For words that were not politically correct, in the field of immigration or in other areas. I think it is extremely serious, extremely serious, really, I weigh my words, to put someone in jail for crimes of opinion in France in 2010. A when there is a historian who circulated a petition, also well written: Mr. Blanrue. This petition, we have made available to readers Polémia knowledge since it is online
Polémia , but it also flows ... It is interesting to see that it raises a substantial media extremely different because I believe freedom of expression is a subject that deserves to be interested beyond political divisions.
 Henry Lesquen |
- Letty
Eric: Yes, absolutely. Or Georges Freche, who likes the statues ... - Henry Lesquen : You are for the release Mr. Badiou ... Well, what to say is that, firstly, actually there are two principles of freedom - is well worth having a currency called "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" for they dare to imprison someone who has an opinion inconsistent with the prevailing opinion: the law of 13 July 1990 which has enabled Mr Vincent Reynouard in prison in France - which is French Reynouard Vincent Moreover, living in Belgium ...
- Jean-Yves Le Gallou
: He was a refugee in Belgium, he could have fled further, perhaps, I do not know ... - Henry Lesquen
: The Act of July 13, 1990 c is the Gayssot. Mr. Gayssot was a Communist deputy, so a law Communist totalitarian spirit, which requires an opinion by the force of law. And that's dramatic. It is dramatic, indeed, because, in fact, is cons-performance because people who are not historians, like myself, who call themselves "But Finally, it's still weird: we did not make a law to prohibit people to say that the Earth is flat. If someone wants to say that the Earth is flat can not ban him. Really, what's the problem? "And there is a law to punish people who claim that deaths in German concentration camps did not die with the gas but in a different way. Well, that's pretty incomprehensible. It's called the crime of denying crimes against humanity and it is a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment. The problem is that when one is not specialist a question, it relies on experts in the field, historians here. But on one condition! Is that freedom of discussion is possible. How can we trust the experts a question if there is no possibility of contradicting and if you do not force those who defend the official position to refute? And it goes very far: apart from the question of the law itself, the intellectual terrorism may suffice. In the climate issue he almost succeeded, until recently, to prevent a real debate on global warming theory supported by the IPCC (WMO). So you really accept the freedom of discussion. So this law is monstrous in principle . I would add, as I recall, Eric Letty, courtesy of Radio listeners that you're managing editor of Life & World
and that your review is a Catholic magazine, which proclaims itself as such: what is serious in this matter is that we instituted a law against blasphemy . We can say the worst in France horrors of Jesus of Nazareth, Jesus Christ, who is the Messiah of the Christians ... - Letty Eric: Unfortunately we do not deny it. - Henry Lesquen : We do not deny it. But you risk nothing. We will not go to jail when we have said the worst horrors of Jesus. can even claim that it also did not exist, we will not go to jail either, as absurd as this thesis. But if you commit blasphemy, not against the religion of Golgotha Christianity, but against the religion of the Holocaust, so there you go to prison. The law has Gayssot is a law that punishes blasphemy against the religion of the Holocaust. So we need to know if this is the official religion of the French Republic and if you have the right to blaspheme the Christian religion but not the religion of the Holocaust.
- Letty
Eric: I think there is something which is quite incomprehensible, moreover, is that, in addition, to quote Jean Gallou, me I'm still historian by training, that history itself is through conflicting opinions. That is very clear. And so there is lots of history and the law firm Gayssot history, actually. I am not at all revisionist and I speak more freely ... - Henry Lesquen : If you were you could not tell! So it's not worth saying. I'd be happy if I was free but, honestly ...
- Eric Letty : Anyway, I mean, the historic estate is closed and is replaced by a field, actually, part of dogma. But then, when we are talking about ... we need to know where you are, if one is in a kind of religion, as you said, the rule or not, but ...
( ...) -
Henry Lesquen : (...) No, no. I must say that this law antirevisionist Gayssot, which is outrageous is that we do not know where to begin and where does because revisionism: is that to deny, for example, the authenticity of the gas chamber Struthof in Alsace is already revisionism? Or is it that there were not two gas chambers in such a place but only one is revisionism? If we said there had been no fatalities but 6 million 5 million 500,000, then they will say "But you kill a second time the 500,000 dead as you remove the statistics!" And so on. This is absurd.
- - Henry Lesquen : But it is not right to put people in jail for their opinions, does not it!
- Jean-Yves Le Gallou : I believe that even beyond these aspects are key to a philosophical aspect in relation to European identity is that on nonreligious subjects, the primary criterion, indeed unique, truth, c 'falsifiability is the opportunity to refute the possibility to discuss.
And so, I think there is a gross infringement of liberties and the problem, as always, is that it starts like that, you know how it starts, it is unclear how it will continue. - Letty Eric: If I may extend the paradox that you mentioned earlier about Jean-Baptiste Duroselle: it must be remembered that even when Paul Rassinier, who is still on ... on ...
- Henry de Lesquen ... founder of the revisionist school French
- Eric Letty : ... was a former exile who was the Socialist Party and now, if the law had been applied Gayssot he spent a German concentration camp to a prison French ...
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